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角弓
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这里有喜欢弓箭的吗?

自古刀枪弓弩不分家,中国第一个关于古弓箭的论坛才建好,望有同好的去看看。有哪位是北京的朋友如果有心的话帮助拍一些古弓的照片(北京潘家园旧货市场)中国现在还有三个人会做,但弓箭爱好者吗。。。。。。没几个!

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2003-2-2 19:57
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乾隆帝用的弓

从乾隆到现在多少年了,乾隆烂没了,弓还在,弓是用筋,角,胶,木或竹,全是动物蛋白成份几百年都没事,有一张西汉时的弓到现在还能发射,韩国有张600年的弓!

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2003-2-2 20:09
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600年韩国弓



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2003-2-2 20:48
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楯無
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上图为赵武灵王骑射图。

爱刀,剑,弓,马的都是我的朋友。
2003-2-2 22:00
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楯無
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谁会做啊?我喜欢!多少斤的弓!现在没几个能开硬弓的了!

爱刀,剑,弓,马的都是我的朋友。
2003-2-2 22:01
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明清两代都是软弓长箭,元代,宋代,唐代以前流行硬弓

明清两代都是软弓长箭,最高不过80斤左右(战弓除外最高180),
2003-2-2 23:58
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There are people in America, Japan, and Korea who practice archery on horseback. In U.S, I know there is annual event where people come in to practice and compete in Korean and Japanese archery on horseback in the east coast. I read somewhere that there were one or two bow makers in Beijing along with another one in Chengdu who can make good bows. I believe there is a market for bow and arrow. The problem of course is to teach people how to use bow and arrow along with maintaining them. There is a gadget with which one puts on the string and releases it, which is also very important part of equipment.

Sadly enough, we may have to learn from Koreans, as their equipment and archery are similar to that of Chinese. There is one guy on Taiwan who also practices on 200 lb antique bow. He seems to be doing it for a while and fairly knowledgeable. If anyone is interested in archery, he might be someone to communicate with and could be invited to have some kind of seminar in the future.

Archery on horseback is such beautiful and wonderful sport, not to mention that it epitomizes the spirit of Wushu. In Japan, when the head of foreign country visits, Japanese often make an arrangement where indoor horseback shooting is done in front of the guest, which is very impressive indeed.

I, for one will be very interested in purchasing one or two light bow from any one of the three makers in the starting post. Please let me know how to go about doing this. Regards/Sittingwind

2003-2-3 02:26
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re sittingwind

the last chinese bowyer in beijing(two) and chengdu(one),the hornbow is more costly things,for the chinese tradition,a good bow take three years to made,there are finished product i see in beijing,if you want buy the chinese bow,you must know how draw it and how maintenance it.
plese ask the stephen SELBY srselby@atarn.org ,how buy it ,there are language bother chinese and english, stephen selby and beijing bowyer is close friend and he can know chinese .
you can see www,atarn,org
2003-2-3 12:18
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thank you very much for your reply Mr. 角弓. I tried to contact Mr. Selby a couple of years back, he didn't answer at all. He certainly is a knowlegeble collector from Hong Kong. However, would you kindly enough to let me communicate with your friends. I am very interested in talking with someone who practices or makes bow and arrow.
Many thanks. I go to China on a regular basis. I would like to meet with them in person if possible. I again apologize for not being able to talk to you guys in Chinese. My computer simply is not equiped with any Chinese solfware.
Regards/Sittingwind
2003-2-3 14:09
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re sittingwind

oh,the things maybe this:a German ask stephen buy a chinese horn bow half year,then stephen agree ,the bowyer also glad made the bow by 3 year,the German
ceaseless ply with stephen 3 year!!!!(the monney money pay first),after 3 year,the bow has made out,the postage same price as the chinese hornbow! the German get the hornbow draw it ,it break!stephen maybe have greet tnuisance !he draw must slow not soon,for darw the hornbow,left hand push first,then right hand draw,(i see some old chinese book),maybe the bowyer not sell for foreigner after this thing!
i also not good at english, more word about the bow i can't  know .
it you can go to beijing,take a translator ,choose a bow by yourself,get some use knowlage from the bowyer, also the bowyer not know english!also i hard to do
2003-2-3 15:13
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sittingwind
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Thank you again for your quick response. I am a Chinese. I regularly visit some of the big cities like Beijin and Shanghai. Mostly I visit other smaller cities more often. You may write in Chinese, it is me who should beg for your forgiveness for not being able to  answer you in Chinese.  Bow maker has to have the abiltiy to pull the bow to test if the bow is sucessful or not. A good number of new bows will be discarded or destroyed right away in the old days, because they would not be able to be used and saved in any other way. To say that a new bow has been broken by a few attempts by anyone is a sign that particular bow was not a serviceable one. Just like when a jian is made, the swordmaker wil test it. Afterwards he will know if the jian is a failure or can be further refined with liquid quenching and further differnetial hear treatment. A useful bow is very resiliant and can take a lot of abuse, if proper care is done on a regular basis. Since you brought up the topic, I would like to know if you know any of those two makers. I know one of them is very old, but I don’t know the situation of the other. the person in Hong Kong who you mentioned is a collector. He does not practice. I admire him a lot. However, I am at this point more looking for someone who has practical experience in performing, making, and maintaining bow and arrow on a regular basis.  Thank you very much for your replies in the past. I would like to share a poem that I wrote recently with you:

老蠶喃
老蠶吐盡為他漢,三十春秋一指彈,千古艷陽隨月轉,不抱漢衣抱酒罈。

Regards/Sittingwind (坐雲)
2003-2-4 14:03
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楯無
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我自己有一把反曲弓。请与我联系。zzq1211@citiz.net

爱刀,剑,弓,马的都是我的朋友。
2003-2-4 20:01
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楯無:你的邮箱发不过去

你说的是现代弓还是古代弓?如果是古弓能发点图给我吗:中国弓弩论坛,bowbbs.7i24.com
2003-2-5 07:38
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楯無
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合合,是现代弓。没瞄准器的我也能射。哈哈

爱刀,剑,弓,马的都是我的朋友。
2003-2-5 12:41
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应管制起来,不许卖。
2004-2-2 21:39
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  引用:
爱刀剑的人 于 2004-2-2 21:39 写道:
应管制起来,不许卖。

刀剑本身并没有错,为什么要管制?要管制的应该是人才对!只要本着收藏、保护本民族的武道精髓的目的,古代兵器和现代兵器都可以收藏,真要管制的话,恐怕谁也没有这个时间和精力全管制到吧?

竖儒蜂起壮士死,神州从此夸仁义。
一朝虏夷乱中原,士子豕奔懦民泣。
我欲学古风,重振雄豪气。名声同粪土,不屑仁者讥。
身佩削铁剑,一怒即杀人。割股相下酒,谈笑鬼神惊。
2004-2-2 21:51
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萧剑平
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有个理想,恢复射圃

神物千年不灭。时出匣、摇荡碧空,闪闪寒芒电光掣。细看是巨阙。三尺。斜明隙月。
2004-2-2 21:54
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喜欢!!

可是现在只能看看罢了~
就算拥有,也不敢大力一拉吧~

新手一名,请多指教~
2004-2-2 22:32
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笑歌
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谁会做古弓?我喜欢!能否帮忙介绍一下?我寻觅很久了!

笑复歌,歌复笑,人生一场戏。
2004-2-3 17:57
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笑歌
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另外古弓箭论坛的网址能不能告诉一下?多谢!

笑复歌,歌复笑,人生一场戏。
2004-2-3 18:06
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